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Bel-ray oil

drummer — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:20:12 GMT

Has anyone used the Bel-ray EXP semi-synth oil? Thoughts? Feelings about its performance?

Ultimate doohickey

shortinseam — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:11:09 GMT

What motorcycle gadget do you wish existed? I'm looking for everything from the feasible to pure science-fiction. My science-fiction wish would be a way to instantly create a wave or bubble of compressed air that would serve as a cushion against an impending crash.

Kendon foldup trailer

RePete — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:20 GMT

We very much enjoy our Kendon trailer. Since our track outings ended several years ago, it will stand patiently in the corner of our garage for a year at a time. But sooner or later, it will come to the rescue and bail us out again.

The trailer is very well made and looks great with it's gloss black frame and fenders and chrome diamond plate bed and chrome wheels. It is 16 years old, but looks like new. There isn't one bit of rust on it...it is only outside if it is in use. It is low and easy to load, has independent suspension, and tows great. But it's best feature is how it folds up like a roll away bed. It has casters that allow it to be move easily into any location. I don't think our model is still in production, but I believe the newer versions are lighter and easier to handle and feature larger sized wheels. If anyone is in need of a trailer, don't overlook the Kendon line.

Best MC Glasses

SRG — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:21:59 GMT

Recently my pair of cheap sunglasses broke so I had to buy another pair. I found out about a place that claimed to have the best MC glasses for $15 shipped to your door. That's pretty much equal to the price I pay for cheap sunglasses except they come with more features. They have foam padding to keep out wind with anti-fogging ports. The lenses are very thick and inserted in such a way that they would not pop out or crack when hit by a bug or rock. On top of that the lenses are scratch resistant. Overall, I am very happy with them and they are functional, comfortable, and inexpensive. I think they're a great deal at $15 as I think comparable ones from a retail store would cost twice as much.

If you need a new pair of sunglasses, then you might want to check them out. I don't think you can loose anything by trying them out considering the price.

By the way, I am not associated with this company in any ways.

http://www.biker-glasses.com/

Gloves for small hands

kaitbroe — Sat, 22 Jul 2006 12:47:21 GMT

I am getting my new (to me) bike tomorrow, and am trying to find good quality affordable, non-leather, gloves. Does anyone have any idea how one measures one's hands and what do you folks wear?

Anti-photo protection

LaneSplitter — Mon, 25 Sep 2006 10:10:56 GMT

Has anyone compared the effectiveness of the different methods for protection from traffic photo? I've heard of different products, including covers, sprays, and louvers. I have no experience with them, however I would guess their effectiveness is variable depending on whether flash photo or infrared photo or video is used by cities.

Satellite radio for my Wing

caseysanta — Sat, 09 Aug 2008 05:15:21 GMT

I ride an 02 Wing and would like to have Satellite radio. Has anyone any ideas on where to go and what to buy. I want to mount it on the bars like my GPS for easy access. I also want it to feed into my helmet
headset. I will need all the hardware, ie. mount, antenna, cables etc.

Thanks for your help.

caseysanta

leather boot conditioner

kruz — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:21:55 GMT

Hi, just joined the board and was hoping someone had advise on a good leather boot conditioner. I purchased a pair of Sidi On-Road Gore Tec boots that were highly recommended by a good friend of mind. Any advise for a good "break-in" procedure would be appreciated!!!

License Plate Locking Compartment

Raven312 — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:21:42 GMT

I was looking for a license plate frame and I happened upon one of these: http://www.aerostich.com/catalog/US/License-Plate-Locking-Compartment-p-16171.html
Has anyone used these? Do they do the job? I realize that it's not a license plate frame but I got to thinking that it just might do the trick, if they provide a little security (though it seems that sensitive docs are more safely stored under the seat...)

Draggin Jeans Do they work?

caseysanta — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 14:33:54 GMT

I have looked on line and can up with Jeans called "Draggin Jeans".
They are lined with Kelvar and said to protect you more than Jeans if you go down. They cost $80.00 +/_.
Question, has anyone used them and do they work. Sounds good but so does a lot of Ads. Any Ideas?

caseysanta

Cleaner

drummer — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:43:58 GMT

Apparently the original Honda or Harley cleaner came from the same place. Now the manufacturer is selling it directly.
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/30july08_bikespirits.htm

Accu-gauge

drummer — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:38:39 GMT

I wanted to praise an American company for their business ethic and product line.

Two years ago I received a tire gauge for Christmas. It was a really nice gauge and after some testing I found that it was as accurate any others I had and easy to read. Since it had a hose attachment it was much easier to use on the bike than others that I used.
This last winter in prepping the bike for a "nice day" ride, I noticed that the gauge had developed a leak at the hose connection point. I started to use old gauges and hung on to the broken one. Well after being frustrated with the old gauges, I searched the web and found the maker of the Accu-gauge and sent their customer support an email . I asked if they sold just the hoses. Long story short, they sent to me a free replacement hose no questions asked and I am really impressed with this company.

So if you purchase an Accu-gauge from Cabella's, Brookstone, Aerostich, etc and have a problem - just contact G.H. Meiser Co and they will help you out, they did me.

http://www.ghmeiser.com/

Ladies riding apparel

RePete — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:06:56 GMT

My wife has been fighting the clothing battle for almost 30 years now. In the beginning, there was no womans riding apparel available. For many years she just wore mens clothing in small sizes. Of course the fit was never very good since a lady is not exactly shaped like a small man. When ladies apparel did become available, it was mostly fluff and not serious riding gear...pink leathers anyone? Well she has finally found her answer. Alpinestars has a complete line of ladies apparel. They call it their Stella line and it includes everything from leather racing suits to lightweight textiles. There are even boots and gloves. But the best part is those Italians know all about a ladies figure This stuff fits. She has their leather TX1 jacket, leather track pant, GP Plus gloves, and Supertech boots...all in black of course. This is serious gear and very well made. The battle has been won.

soft saddle bags

paul — Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:37:55 GMT

i'm looking for soft saddle bags to fit my 91 honda nighthawk. i've never had any and have no idea what characteristics i should be looking for or which companies make decent products. if anyone has bags they are happy with, please tell me the model and company.

thanks, paul

turn signals in clothing

ibafran — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:35:06 GMT

http://www.instructables.com/id/turn-signal-biking-jacket

Well. This came my way.

Anybody giving this idea a try should post up the results, costs, and time of assembly. Let us know if your gear really is washable.

Any crafter who has made his own down sleeping bag, tent, various throw-over soft bags, all-weather riding togs, and custom long distance saddle ought to be able to put turn signals in his bikin jacket with his eyes closed in a frog-strangler of a rain.

The idea ought to be adaptable to all kinds of bikin stuff.

4" Riser from Versa Haul Welds Failed

Jeffingh — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:28:14 GMT

I bought a versahaul single carrier with the optional 4" riser 3 years ago for our motorhome to carry our Suzuki 400s dual sport. The weight was well under the limit but this past memorial day the welds on the riser gave out and the bike fell off the back of the motorhome. Thank God we had just exited the hyway and were on a smooth dirt road which was rather soft after the rains when it fell off. It bent the handle bars and broke the tail light as we were only going 10mph. I contacted the vendor and they are not assuming any liability or responsibility for it as the one year warranty has passed. I am greatly dissapointed in this and warn others to inspect the welds and add some gussets to the riser to ensure some added strength to it. This could have caused a serious accident if it had failed just 10 minutes earlier and resulted in physical injury to other drivers and a total loss of our motorcycle.

Your Own Web Site

drummer — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:31:44 GMT

I have been playing with a free web site area from Google. It seems like it is going to be very useful for my family stuff as I can select any of them to use it, share content, post items, etc. Since it does not require knowing how to use HTML programming, it is friendly for most to use.

So I just thought others might like to know it is available and have fun with their own web site as well. Since I know there are a lot of Bike groups out there, it could also be handy for them to share rides etc.

http://sites.google.com

Quirky - but fun!

shortinseam — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:04:27 GMT

Thought you all might want to take a gander at this: http://tinyurl.com/5lnwcv

GPS vs Speedometer (Which is "right"?)

jmatthenson — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:12:52 GMT

I have a Zumo 450 on my 2004 BMW 1150RT. I've noticed that the Zumo consistently reports a lower MPH than the motorcycle speedometer. And as expected, the higher the speed, the more the discrepancy. (40 vs 42 MPH, and 75 vs 80 MPH, with the Zumo being LOWER than the speedometer.)

Because the Zumo is based on GPS, I'm assuming it's more accurate?? Does anyone know if this is correct? Let me know.

Helmets, flip-up

Jomalo — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:58:22 GMT

I'd like to buy a helmet with the option of flipping the chin section up. Can anyone recommend one model? Also, where can I find one in the Chicago area?

Boots ...

drummer — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 15:19:12 GMT

The Sidi Doha boot review in MC News this month got me thinking I really need to buy riding boots. I liked the review and have started to look at other reviews. What is most important to me is:
comfort in very hot weather
non slip soles in case of oil when I put my foot down
top of toe padding to save my foot from the shifting peg
NO METAL on the outside of the boot

Any recommendations?

Hitch Mounted Motorcycle Carriers

skooterj — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:09:08 GMT

I don't have any way to store a trailer, so I was looking at using one of those hitch mounted motorcycle carriers. I've seen quite a few around, and I'm leaning towards the ones from VersaHaul. They seem really sturdy. Has anyone had any experience with this style carrier?

Replacements for Bungee Cords article?

wolfen42 — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:21:35 GMT

Hopefully this isn't a too terribly frivolous question... But, I'm not at home and I'm trying to remember what the product reviewed in the last MCN was that was a replacement strap system to use instead of Bungee cords.

Anyone have that issue handy? I was hoping to look them up online but I can't seem to come up with the right search criteria in Google... :)

Thanks

Alternatives to GPS

mudcat — Tue, 20 May 2008 08:32:14 GMT

I'm not ready to spend the bucks on a GPS yet but would like something a bit more accurate to measure time and distance than depending on the speedometer/odometer. Does anyone have experience with any of the units that can be attached to the handlebars?

M/C Road Racing Armor

Noidly1 — Fri, 09 May 2008 21:46:45 GMT

Does anyone know of any reviews done on M/C road racing armor to include elbow, shoulder and knee/shin armor?

I have a one piece suit that is in need of much better armor and I am having trouble finding reviews.

Thanks.

$$$/gas/$$$

jerseyjim — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:52:31 GMT

Wow.....two weeks ago, filled up....$13.65. This week...filled up....$15.20.

That's what it USED to cost to fillup the car! When I bought the bike (new) in '92...2 - 3 bucks on average.

Gotta use "Premium" (or what passes for it nowadays), tried "regular", the bike seems to RUN OK....but the motor keeps running (dieseling) after the key is turned off...so "Premium" it is.

On my stone-age AMF Shovel (1976), when the gasoline was being reformulated, (lower octane...lead free), during one of my "rebuilds", I put like 1/16" aluminum spacers between the bottom of the cylinders and the base....therefore lowering the compression...and then the bike ran OK (when it did run OK). But I'm not gonna do that now with this EVO motor that's never been torn down for mechanical reasons. (40,000 miles and counting)

I wonder if I can back the the timing off a few degrees to run "regular" without doing anything negative to the motor.

Probably best to leave things alone....and just grimace when those big numbers come up.

BTW...yesterday filled up the pickup with "regular" $75 !!!!!!!! Glad I got plastic......

Seat Comparison - Mustang vs Ultimate

New Honda Rider — Thu, 01 May 2008 19:52:04 GMT

As my name indicates, I'm a new rider. I'm interested in getting a new seat and am considering the Mustang and Ultimate. Is there a published comparison of the seat anywhere? Also, I would like to hear from those who ride in one of these seats and what you like and don't like about the seat. Thanks!!

polish/cleaner/wax

Debbie — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:10:42 GMT

I just had my bike custom painted. The paint shop does not want me to the Honda polish/cleaner I have always used and love. They recommend a brand called Mothers. Also a brand called Wizard--which I cannot find.
What does anyone else use on their custom paint?

Bike Covers

caseysanta — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:09:24 GMT

I have bought a bike cover that turned out to be a piece of Junk.
Do you have any suggestions on a good quality cover.
I found some on E Bay for around $35 including shipping but I'm not real sure I'm not buying another piece of junk. My local M/C shop wanted $65.00.
Any Ideas ??

caseysanta

gps

binrocha — Sat, 07 Apr 2007 10:00:21 GMT

hello all,
i just bought a garmin nuvi 660 gps personal travel assistant, after five days of testing in a car, i'm hooked! this gadget is versatile, use for car/motorcycle, pedestrian, bicycle, truck or bus. the only problem is, its not waterproof. any suggestions on how to waterproof (other than zip-bag) & bike mount this gizmo is really appreciated. garmin is no help, whatsoever.
thanks

Travel Bags

drummer — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:26:49 GMT

All,
I am just starting to investigate bike bags that strap on to the passenger seat. Granted I want one that is durable, some what water proof, and can hold a considerable amount of clothing. The one issue that I am concerned about is security. If you are in a restaurant and can't see the bike, can the bag be locked down?

So, to save a couple of steps, anybody recommend any bags for me? Are there any concerns I should know about that I did not state?

products for sport touring on an R1

RePete — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:18:46 GMT

The races are taping so I thought I'd take a minute to talk about some things that work well for Janice and me when we get out of Dodge on the R1s.

Clothing:

We wear all the protection we can find. When things turn to kitty litter, I want everything possible between me and the tarmac. So we each wear two piece armored leathers. These are solid black for ease of cleaning... a little water and some black shoe polish. Some important features are good vents (no perforations), a removable thermal liner, and a small or none at all collar. The collar thing may not be so obvious but the last thing you want on an all day ride is for your collar to keep pushing your helmet down over your eyes. We ride with our heads tilted back of course. A side benefit of leathers is easy clean up at lunch when you spill the ketchup in your lap. Another benefit is not having to pack along any other outer riding garments.

Everything we wear under the leathers is high wicking, can be washed in the sink and dry the next morning, packs in the smallest of space, and is of course black. Flash Gordon, M.D. has been singing the praises of Wicker products for years. After much experimentation with other garments, we agree. They offer a few different materials but we like the softsilk and the midweight. The softsilk fells wonderful against our skin and that is all that touches it...expect gloves and socks. The midweight makes a great outer turtle neck. Both materials stretch in all directions...important on an R1. I wear thin silk socks and can pack a full days worth of garments (expect evening pants) in a single one gallon ziplock plastic bag. That's briefs, long johns, socks, long sleeve crew neck undershirt, and outer long sleeve turtle neck. Plus they are made in the good ol' US of A and priced fairly. Our only complaint is the softsilk is very delicate and will snag easily. WWW.Wickers.com. My evening pants are from REI, dry over night, fit in an another one gallon ziplock bag, and are black of course. You can see if one wanted to be hard core, they could wash each night and not bring any extra clothes at all. However we carry two extra sets...all of three ziplock bags worth counting the pants and we are good for a month if we want.

If it is going to be cold, we throw in our Gerbing electric vests. There is nothing else as warm on the market to our knowledge. Gerbing uses a multiple heating pad arrangement with wires only an inch apart in these pads. Others just loop the heating wires throughout the vest. However the Gerbing vests aren't perfect. They are cut a little long for our sport riding position; the plug in arrangement is bulky and noticeable under tight leathers; the collar is too high; and they can actually burn you if fail to turn things down or off. Still they are our favorite. WWW.Gerbing.com

If it is going to be hot, we throw in our water evaporative cool vests from Sound Rider. These are thin and pack small, plus they hold a lot of water and work great. We soak them in the morning before leaving and pack them each in a two gallon plastic ziplock bag. Then are ready when we need them. Plus they are flat cheap. www.soundrider.com

Luggage:

There is lots of good soft luggage out there. Janice currently uses an Euro-sport jumbo hauler duffle from Roadgear. I like to pack a larger hole so I use the same duffle plus P38 saddle bags from Eclipse. I could carry much more than I do. WWW.Roadgear.com and www.eclipseluggage.com.

Tip:

Plastic bags are God's gift to the touring rider. Don't even try to waterproof your soft luggage, just pack everything on the inside in plastic bags. We even use these bags to waterproof our riding boots. We wear Alpinestars supertech boots...that protection thing again. They are comfortable for all day (backpacking excluded) and offer protection enough for your ankle to wear a 450 lb. motorcycle with no ill effects at all..don't ask. They are two part with an inner bootie and an outer shell. We remove the bootie, wrap it in a couple plastic bags ,and put it back in. This works great. Our feet don't sweat because the plastic is outside the foam bootie and our boots will bob like a cork in a sink full of water...sure beats fighting totes.

Finger Squeegee Thingy

dedsled — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:39:49 GMT

I remember seeing a short write-up of a product that slides over a finger of your riding gloves. It's basically a small squeegee to wipe off your face shield while riding in rain or fog. I searched the MCN article indexes but I am having no luck. It could be that I read about it in another (gasp) publication. I was living in the desert when I first saw this so I wasn't too interested. Now I am living on the Northern California coast (Crescent City) and it seems like a good idea. Has anyone heard of, or have any info on, such a product?

Pants

torqueman — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:08:06 GMT

I like to try out new gear when I travel by bike and this last trip was no different but the gear I was testing was. It was not your normal riding gear or latest electric gizmo. I tried some new pants. Riding pants? No not at all and if you are into the latest biker fashion you might as well stop reading now.

I had two pair of the “high tech” “packable” pants that are made for the backpacking crowd. These pants are very durable and made to stand up to hiking in the deep woods. They are the kind that the legs zip off of to create shorts. With limited packing space this dual purpose made them quite useful. The word “packable” is what the manufacturer calls them and for sure they took up a little less space than one of my heavy t-shirts. They are cargo style and do make you look a little like a park ranger but I preferred to think I looked more like Indiana Jones.

On this trip my riding gear was Joe Rocket mesh gear. I was concerned about early morning and riding places like Beartooth Pass. With my mesh riding pants would these super light weight fabrics keep me warm enough? I am happy to report that they did a good job of cutting wind and keeping my legs warm. We never saw temps below 55 degrees but I know I could have gone lower and still have been comfortable. Now I know they would not be good for 30 degree riding but then again neither would the mesh riding gear.

Of course the nice part was as the temps warmed up I could take the legs off the pants. Neither pair of the pants would allow me to take them off without removing my boots. It was a small price to pay for comfort and the space savings. Also the fabric dried very quickly. I’m not saying I would wash them out in the sink and expect them to be dry by morning but they did not need the time in the dryer my jeans do.

The first and my favorite pair were made by The North Face. They were the Meridian Convertible model. It was little touches like the legs having R and L on the zipper to make finding the correct leg easer when it came time to put them back on that won the first place title. They were also the more expensive of the two.

The second pair was made by Columbia. There were the Titanium Challenger models and though they came in second it was a close second and I would not hesitate to buy them again. The lower price on this model may make them the best choice if you want to try a pair out for yourself.

Going into this I was sure the zipper around the legs would bother me in some way. On both brands the zippers were well protected by cloth and I never noticed them. These pants are very comfortable and so light weight you almost feel like you are wearing pajamas. This alone may bother some people.

I also had a shirt made out of the same type of material. I saw less value in the shirt as the t-shirts I normally wear don’t take up much room anyway. Also I still felt the need to pack a sweater so that fixed any issues I had on cooler days. I will continue to pack the shirt but will probably not replace it when the time comes.

Bottom line is these pants have moved up from test gear to a permanent place in my travel gear. Convenience, comfort, and space saving are the reasons for that graduation.

Bluethooth sterio headset

caseysanta — Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:30:34 GMT

I bought a Garmin Zumo 550 GPS. I was wondering if anyone has come up with a Sterio headset that can be worn with a helmet.

I don't hear well so I need amplification, both in the headset as well as from the GPS. I have looked at a "Motorala MOTOROKR S9 part # 98801 ( by Vorizon). I looks as if it would work but cost $119.00 so I would like to know before I buy it.

Any Ideas. I've loaded my GPSs MP-3 with good Bluegrass Music and want to listen to it. Thanks for your help.

caseysanta

Earplugs, custom or store bought.

NJScooterGal — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:08:03 GMT

Hello ya'all...

I am wondering what most of you opted for in the way of earplugs, if anything.

I have tried the store bought foam type and the semi-rigid "shooters" type, but in the end, I found out I have some type of strangely shaped ear canal. I made an appointment with a audiologist and forked over $80 for a custom molded set. The difference in the fit for me has made a huge difference. I can still hear with them in, but when I get off the bike now, I don't keep hearing Charlie Brown's teacher going wa wa wa wa wa wa...

Thanks..

Lisa

GPS Question

caseysanta — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:47:05 GMT

It seems to me that a GPS with an IPod and/or Sat. Radio Capability in one unit would be a good thing for us to have.
Is there such a thing or will I have to wait for Bill Gates to see the need??
Any Ideas??

caseysanta
Boulevard C90T

Adaptiv Radar Unit

Nomad17 — Mon, 09 Apr 2007 08:22:47 GMT

Has anybody tried this unit out or bought it. I was just wondering how good or motorcycle friendly this unit is.Adaptiv Technologies LLC

Nomad17

Cheap Prescription Glasses

OzarkWingGuy — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:48:31 GMT

I'm gonna do something that I normally don't do. I'm gonna recommend a company that I recently learned about on the GoldWing GL1800 site. Up until recently I wore Wally world reading glasses. Lately at night I had noticed a little decrease in my vision so I decided it might be a good idea to visit a real eye Dr. He prescribed some weak glasses for distance and no line bifocals with my favorite Wally world reading lenses. I went to get that prescription filled at the local mall optical place (I tried several) and was in for a real shock. For frames, lenses, no-line bifocals in the kind that change from dark to light they wanted over $400 and thats not Rubles or Pesos, its real-live American cash. I remembered the recommendation on the Wing site of the optical place so came home and copied my prescription on the order and it came to $92 including shipping and I ordered the kind that change dark to light, the no-line bifocal and the fancy titanium frames that will bounce back into shape when my wife whacks me with the frying pan. I figured I would be lucky if I ever saw anything for my money. It wasn't as fast as the mall but two weeks later my order arrived in a hard case with a fancy wiping cloth and I'm surprised at how much is out there that I can now see. Of course a lot of what I'm seeing I wish I didn't but I want to recommend them to you because if you wear spectacles this can save you some money and you can cut me in for a commission or buy a lot more beer.

http://zennioptical.com/cart/home.php

Thermologic Battery Heated Gloves

Pugrider — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:55:13 GMT

Before I knew I would be installing heated grips, I looked at different heated gloves. The problem I had with the plug-in variety is that they didn't seem very practical on their own, and I wasn't sure I would be doing enough cold weather riding to warrant the investment in heated gloves, vest, thermostat, etc. I looked around for a battery operated pair, but they didn't seem suited to riding. Then I found Thermologic.

Thermologic makes heated hunting gear, using the same technology employed in car rear window defrosters. A special type of ink is run through a lithium battery heater to warm the glove. The batteries are rechargeable, and come with the recharger. They are good for 4 hours at 85 degrees, 3 hours at 100 degrees, and 2 hours at 110 degrees. The gloves cost $69.99 and include two batteries and the charger. You can buy additional battery sets with charger for $27.99.

All of this sounded great, but the big drawback for me was that they are meant for hunters, and thus came in camo color. I emailed Larry Rosenberry, their national sales manager, and suggested that their product might have a market with motorcyclists. In turns out they were already making the gloves in black and were marketing them at trade shows to law enforcement agencies. Larry agreed to sell me a pair directly so I could try them out. I have ridden with them for a few weeks in various windy/rainy/cold conditions, and give them a high recommendation for keeping your hands warm, including the back of your hand and fingers. These gloves are great for commuter riders like myself, as they heat up very quickly, and I have rarely needed to keep them on anything but "low" to keep my hands warm.

Larry has agreed to sell the black gloves directly to other interested motorcyclists because they are not yet available through their retail dealers (unless you want camo). You can find additional information about the gloves and their other products at:

http://www.thermologic.net/content.asp?id=555

If you want to order a pair, please contact Larry by email or telephone:

Larryrosenberry@ntaenterprise.net
Office Telephone: 412-325-7875

Please use the code word "Pugrider" when you order so Larry will know you received the information from me. I have no financial link to this company, I just wanted to share this opportunity with other riders. I am happy to answer any other questions you have about the gloves. I am not posting a picture because they look like the ones on the web site only black, but will do so if it will help.

Keep your hands warm and the rubber side down.

Pugrider