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Posted 1/10/2006 7:19:44 PM
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What is your comments on chemicals which are added to the battery acid and states it will help batteries output and life
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Posted 1/10/2006 10:37:00 PM
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I've always been told. When the batterie is activated the first time, you add batterie acid after that you only top it off with distilled water.
I was told that topping off with acid would kill the batterie.

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What additives are you referring to. Adding more acid can be done for a weak battery (just to get a little more life out of it) but it's called "spiking" and should not be done on a regular basis. It is not good for the battery and can be dangerous. If you only add distilled water then no additives should be necessary. If on the other hand you add tap water there may be some additives to remove the chlorine and other impurities. This would help the battery as the impurities attach themselves to the lead plates and reduce the surface area for the chemical processes. Depending on the additive they may work as the additives you add to an aquarium when tap water is added.
I personally would not add anything but distilled water, when the battery becomes weak replace it.

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Posted 1/11/2006 9:55:00 AM
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ok, first up, I'd go for a sealed battery
whenever possible. On most bikes, getting
to the battery is somewhere between a pain
and next to impossible (try finding on on an
FJR sometime) and as such, they don't get checked that often. If it's not sealed, odds are its going to be running low some of the time and that's bad. Not nucular-war bad
but sitting-by-the-side-of-the-road-with-a-dead-bike bad which is plenty bad enough. Second, despite the "I've had the same battery since the Clinton Administration" posts you may see, on a bike, batteries have a shorter life spand then they do in cars, like half as long. If it's more that 2-3 years old, I'd suggest you get a new one, way cheeper than a tow. Thus rather than mess with questionale chemicals that may or may not help, I'd focus on keeping a nice, fresh sealed unit in there.
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Posted 1/11/2006 5:18:17 PM
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http://www.batteryequaliser.com/


With a few ounces per battery of a liquid additive, "Battery Equaliser" the internal chemistry of all lead-acid batteries can be improved.

Treated Batteries:

Double Battery Life
Retain Charge 3 time longer between starts
Reduce Charging Time
Increase Discharge time
Reduce Utility Bills
Reduce Batteries In The Waste Stream




All of this is achieved by regulating the rate of sulfation, which slows the rate of self- discharge, lowers internal resistance and "gassing" (consumption of water). Thus, making possible all of the above
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Posted 1/13/2006 4:25:55 PM
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do the additives work or don't know?
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Posted 1/13/2006 10:11:54 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by dlsmith

do the additives work or don't know?



I skimmed through some of the testimonials. What I'd like to see is a scientific study designed to take all claims into account. Is MCN listening???

Otherwise I'm tempted to think snake oil with something like this.

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Posted 1/14/2006 6:28:08 AM


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The chemistry of lead-acid batteries is essentially unchanged since they were invented, as is the chemistry of nickel-cadmium batteries. Both have been around, along with others, since the invention of the telegraph and telephone. Their limitatations of weight, limited energy storage, required charge time, and number of charge-discharge cycles are the reasons why electric cars have never been very successful. Developmental work has been going on for that whole time in an effort to overcome those limitations. You can be pretty sure any conceivable additive has been tried. If it worked, the battery makers would be using it, calling it their miracle additive, and advertising how much better their batteries were because of it. With that in mind I figure this stuff is probably hype. Incidently, in the ad was a link to the MSDS. Judging by that, there isn't much in it.

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Posted 1/14/2006 8:31:09 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Charon

Incidently, in the ad was a link to the MSDS.



Yeah, I looked at that too. Cadmium Sulphate - <0.0 1% I suppose the rest is water.

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Posted 2/18/2006 9:28:42 PM
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My best efforts to extend battery life on my '88 K75c was to keep it plugged in and topped up.
I got FIVE years out of that one... it failed when I hadn't topped it up for several summer months and it was > 50% low (oops!)
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