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the problem MIGHT have been with the Corbin seat. I was thinking the same thing Jimbo. Corbin seats look fantastic, but feel like you're sitting on the fender....unless of course you spend $$$ extra for the "extra" padding that should've been there to start with.
If I could walk like that, I wouldn't need a doctor.
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Ok, if you thought that was bias here is another article that compares the Goldwing, BMW, and Ultra making many of the same points.
http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mccompare/htourers.html
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We also found that the Ultra's new cruise control system worked much better than the Honda's, delivering smooth, steady performance without the Gold Wing's on-off jerkiness.
And the Harley wins out over both the other bikes in the fuel mileage stakes, consistently turning in 40-plus miles-per-gallon economy, even in the wilting 110 degree heat of America's Southwestern deserts.
the Ultra handles everyday commuting in urban confines better than either the Gold Wing or the Beemer, with all its controls well laid out, falling readily to hand and foot.
We found both the stereo and intercom/CB more convenient to operate than the Honda's since the hand controls are easier to reach and use.
The top Tour Box, though, was the best of the three, with an easy-to-use side-latch opening and more than adequate space for all that stuff the significant other hates to leave behind.
The Ultra does handle tight mountain roads much better than the Gold Wing, though.
Are they being bias as well?
By the way, the Ultra has almost been on the road as many years as the goldwing and the years the goldwing has on the Ultra it wasn't a serious touring bike. You had to buy all the touring gear for it.
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| Okay SRG - thanks for this more professional comparison - that first one was a joke. Like I said before, the GoldWing is the one that manufacturers traditionally have attempted to outdo as the following quote from the article will support: "Through the years no other touring motorcycle has enjoyed the popularity of the Wing." However, it sounds as though the others have caught up and surpassed it. I agree that it has become quite the monster - when I was at the Motorcycle Show in Cleveland last year I thought it's younger brother the ST1300 was as big or bigger than the old Aspencades from the early 80's. And yet...................the Beemer ended up winning out over the Harley and the Honda!!
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"Winners and losers" when you are talking about something as relative as motorcycles IMHO is bad terminology. There is just too many size people and too many different reasons and riding styles in which motorcycles are bought for to have a winner and loser. Each of the bikes described are winners. Excellent bikes with each manifesting their own style of what a big luxury touring mount should be.
My less than thrilled ownership with the '06 Wing was interesting but just showed how my riding style over the years had changed without me being fully aware of it. Also the part of the country I now reside in is different than the West TX environs when I owned my 3 previous Wings. If I were to fault the Wing for anything its that they have tried to make the bike all things to all people. With the old 1500 Wing I felt it fit my 6ft2 large frame with 36in inseam much better. The new Wing was very cramped. Footpegs instead of floorboards keeps one from moving their legs and it you use hwy pegs you have to be a contortionist to spread your legs wide enough to go around the fairing.
I tried on a BMW LT before I bought my present mount. The Beemer had many of the Wings shortcomings for me. Also I couldn't find anyplace to purchase proper Buck Rogers appareal for riding the LT.
With cycle prices being what they are and the days of test rides being very restrictive I think forums such as this are excellent to share info about the various bikes. But it requires us to be objective about our bikes good points and bad points.
OzarkWingGuy
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Okay SRG - thanks for this more professional comparison - that first one was a joke.
The only difference between the first review and this one is that one was from a motorcycle source instead of personal experience. I still don't understand how you can critisize the first review. Both of them made pretty much the same points. Almost everything that the first review said was reiterated and touched upon in the professional review. The first one even briefly acknowledged the Goldwing engine. How was the first one bias if he made the same points as the second review?
But the more important question still remains; why doesn't MCNews provide a more objective review that encapulates more features of the bikes? Both of these two reviews were capable of doing that, so why doesn't MCNews?
And yet...................the Beemer ended up winning out over the Harley and the Honda!!
Ya, and it seemed that they had the most complaints about the BMW in certain areas? I guess they really liked something about that bike. BMW has been known for making great touring bikes.
Someone has told me this before, but it's pretty much true. Usually when it gets cold and there are very few bikes I will see someone on a Harley or a BMW. When it gets so cold that you think nothing can survive out there I will see a guy on his BMW.
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| SRG - as I mentioned previously, in the first review the guy was used to his Ultra and where everything was at and the feel of it and anything else would pale in comparison - doesn't matter if it was a GoldWing or something else. It was pretty obvious by the way he whined about everything he didn't like about the GoldWing and only focused on that and glossed over the bike's good points. Is there an MCN review out there of the Ultra or a comparison with the GoldWing that you are referring to when you ask - "why doesn't MCNews provide a more objective review that encapulates more features of the bikes?" I can't comment until I've read these reviews.
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| OK I have to say something here. MCN did do a test on 4 or 5 different touring bikes, and Harley was one of them. This was awhile ago though. I know the test cause they wanted to do something with 2 up at the time, so I got to go with them. If I remember right they liked the BMW better then the other bikes.
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