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Posted 6/11/2007 11:32:15 PM
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[quote]Rootie (6/10/2007)
One more thing Mule - have you ever ridden a sidecar rig? They require a lot more "work" than two wheels. Curves and turns are more complicated than just leaning. A lot of rigs constantly "pull" to one side and you sometimes feel like you're fighting it.

What I'm trying to say is that they are not for everyone. Then again, hack enthusiasts wouldn't ride anything else. Maybe you could rent or borrow a rig for a while to see how you feel about it.

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Provided your rear wheel is correctly aligned there are three variables on a side car rig.

The positioning of the side car wheel with respect to the bike's rear wheel (lead) as their axles shouldn't be even is one. Too little lead and the bike will pull to the side car side. Too much and the front wheel will be fighting with the side car wheel in any turn. The extreme being if they were next to each other. That would be like a car where only one front wheel was attached to the steering wheel and the other was fixed with the rear wheels.

Toe in, like a car only in reference to the side car wheel pointing toward the bike a little bit.

The bike isn't positioned straight up and down, it leans away from the rig slightly or lean out.

If everything is correct it should track straight under neutral throttle.

As with a car's alignment, these should be checked periodically and adjusted as needed.

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As far as fighting the rig is concerned you need to learn to use the quirks associated with having a big lump sticking off to one side.

For left hand drive models the bike will want to swerve to the right under acceleration and to the left under braking (or engine braking).
So, if you are approaching a left hand bend you need to back off a bit as you enter or if it is a right hander you need to accelerate a little. It is rather amazing just how easy this makes the process. You just have to program your mind to do it consistently.
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Posted 6/19/2007 5:39:06 PM
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motormule - keep researching before you buy, main items are what speed do really want to go, how many $, how old of unit.

I bought a 2005 Troka (top of the line for single wheel drive) as a trial to test out sidecars before attaching one to my wifes bike.  Reason there was not a hugh difference between buying a sidecar, mounting hardware and installation vs a used Ural.  Now my wife is certain she wants a sidecar and does not want to give up her bike.

Yes, best to stay away from older urals if possible.  Technology updates have been many.  However still some older stuff - which does two things, keep the price down and easy repairs (no computer stuff to worry about).

So I have my 2005 Ural Troka for sale - less than 2,000 miles, marron and black, always draws attention, still in warrenty until Feb 2008.  $6,400 compare to just under $10,000 for new one.

Need picture or any info - be happy to discus more if you want. 303-263-1879

HACK'EN IS THE BEST

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Good advice up there ^^^

I've got more than $10K in mine considering purchasing the used bike, purchasing the sidecar, mounting hardware, LL forks, ripping it all apart and sending everything to the body shop for a matched paint job, and all the little items that needed to be replaced on the old bike like tires, cables, etc. I'm not complaining as I was into a complete DIY for my first hack and knew it would cost me. I wanted the full (or is that fool?) experience.

His asking price is more than reasonable. If ya live near him...
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If it has a proper VIN meeting dot standards, it will have the appropriate US parts, if the VIN is non-standard, so is the bike as a general rule.

My '93 is a Russian Domestic with "bottlecap" wheels and a 6 digit VIN, not at all US compliant and probably a GREY market bike, my '95, on the other hand, has a full DOT VIN starting with an "X" number, it has the full widthe aluminum hub wheels, SAE/DOT compliant lighting and EPA certification.

If it is/was sold by Ural America or its successor IMWA or IMZ-URAL, it will be compliant in all regards.

Semper Paratus

2003 RK with hack

1996 Royal Star

1995 Ural with hack, updated with 2006 power train and Patrol 2WD

Also, older 1993 Ural Domestic with hack.

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