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Posted 9/13/2008 10:29:54 PM
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I'm thinking about trying to convert a 1984 Harley FLT, Evo engine, enclosed chain final drive to a modern type belt. Does any one have experience w/ such a thing? Thanks much.
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Posted 9/14/2008 12:49:17 AM


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Ahh, tired of the boot seals leaking, eh?

Luckily with enough $$$ anything's possible!

It's been a loooong while since I've dealt with this, but if I recall correctly, you've got 3 choices...from $ to $$$. Naturally, the amount of work required is similar.

1) Strip the chain-enclosing covers, etc., and run a standard o-ring chain.

2) Convert to 14mm belt using parts from shovel FLTP(?) they made police shovels from maybe 1980-1984 with factory belts. Not terribly strong(strong enough for a stock shovel), but cheap if the right donor parts can be found.

3) Full 1 1/8 or larger belt conversion. This will require major parts and coin investments.

Again, it's been quite a while for me on this topic. I definitely recommend looking up BDL and Rivera/Primo. They both make excellent products, and I'm sure they can be extremely specific as to precisely what mods are necessary for what options, and pricing.

 

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Posted 9/14/2008 3:41:04 AM
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I have a budd with such a bike. He has 50,000 miles on his original, non-Oring chain. And he doesnt see why it wont keep going for a long time further. The chain has no tight spots , fits the sprockets well, and rarely needs oil or adjustment.

I asked him if it was a PITA to deal with? He replied that getting it sealed was difficult. But its been fine ever since the job got done. He used that silicone based sealer/gasket stuff (rtv?)

Why give up something that works so well? Its the only part of his bike that I am a little envious of.

nobody rides half as well as they know how.

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Posted 9/14/2008 4:18:52 AM


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I've certainly heard of a belt to chain conversion...expecially with the high performance machines....some say the belt isn't strong enough...I don't know.  MY belt just passed 42,000 miles (stock EVO dresser) and no problems when doing a visual check...and the only adjustment was at about 6,000 miles.

Like it was said before, with enough $$$ you can do anything. However, I don't understand the reason for doing this...especailly with a 1984 anything.  An "O" ring chain? Yep...I've used them...and you STILL have to oil the thing and keep it adjusted.   I've also had (plastic) chain enclosures on a few Honda 750's I've had...they surely work to keep the chain clean(er) and oiling intervals are further apart....that, by itself is a good thing.

Personal opinion: keep the chain, oil it, adjust it and enjoy the bike.

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Posted 9/14/2008 9:45:16 AM
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Alright - you've convinced me to leave it alone. Its the only thing that drips on it - except for the gusher when I first start it in the spring - so I thought I might modernize. As chains go, I suppose one encased in oil is pretty reliable and it IS working fine. Thanks much for the replies!
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Posted 9/15/2008 1:15:26 AM


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I've certainly heard of a belt to chain conversion...expecially with the high performance machines....some say the belt isn't strong enough...I don't know.  MY belt just passed 42,000 miles (stock EVO dresser) and no problems when doing a visual check...and the only adjustment was at about 6,000 miles.

Like it was said before, with enough $$$ you can do anything. However, I don't understand the reason for doing this...especailly with a 1984 anything.  An "O" ring chain? Yep...I've used them...and you STILL have to oil the thing and keep it adjusted.   I've also had (plastic) chain enclosures on a few Honda 750's I've had...they surely work to keep the chain clean(er) and oiling intervals are further apart....that, by itself is a good thing.

Personal opinion: keep the chain, oil it, adjust it and enjoy the bike.

 

The late stock belts are more than strong enough. Most belt-to-chain swaps are due to superstition and unfamiliarity. The only b-to-c swaps that are necessary are because it's behind a monster motor(110ci+), or for additional wide tire clearance.

The belt I mentioned (and questioned it's strength), was the early 14mm(9/16") belt. The later ones like yours are 1 1/8"-1 1/2", and much stronger.

ibafran: I agree...if you can get them sealed, they work very well. But...I do not tolerate leaks. The hardest part of that equation is parts availability for broken/warped covers, followed by continual replacement of the seals at the trans and wheel. If it's just a matter of leaking boot/cover o-rings/gaskets, I definitely recommend a thin wipe of Permatex Black on clean/dry gaskets/o-rings-not as their replacement. 

 

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Posted 10/2/2008 11:05:28 AM


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Bernie -

If it don't leak, it ain't a Harley.  I drilled a hole in the primary case of my '02 Nighttrain soes I could relive my Shovelhead days.  Ride Proud!

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Posted 10/2/2008 6:47:37 PM
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