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Posted 10/24/2008 7:50:14 AM
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hey what up ? has anyone heard of using a car tire on a wing {yokahama} i heard that you will get 20k miles out of one i"m about 4k from a change out just curious
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Posted 10/24/2008 1:34:05 PM
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Short answer "No"

Car tires are not made to lean in the corner like a motorcycle tire. Yes they will fit and guys have done it, but it is dangerous from what I've read.

Gfurlo

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Posted 10/24/2008 2:25:42 PM


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Yes I've heard of it.  In cycle-speak they are called "darksiders."  Some swear by the practice.  In GL1800 Riders forum you can read all about it.

OzarkWingGuy
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Posted 10/24/2008 2:28:12 PM


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My answer is don't do it. Some guys are doing it and say it is no problems. I can't imagine it having the same feel going around the corner let alone having a good contact patch.

Torqueman
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Posted 10/24/2008 4:04:22 PM


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Looking back at this don't mistake that I'm neutral on this practice.  I'm also very much against it.  The fact they are getting more miles on the tire tells you something about the compound of the tire.  If you watch MotoGP and hear all the discussion about tires and which ones to use based on the temperature you begin to understand how crucial your traction is based on temp, the lean of the motorcycle, the surface and a variety of other factors.  And come to think of it the poor coverage of MotoGP by Speed is not where I picked up all the talk about tire compounds and selection its on the MotoGP podcast.  Every Friday they do a hour and half podcast.  They are always talking about tires, the compounds, the race conditions.  Some very big factors on about every racer except Rossi who I think could probably finish on the podium if he was running without tires on rims alone.

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Posted 10/25/2008 9:54:59 AM
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No personal experience here. Ergo, heaping tbs of NaCl required for the following observations.

-The equipment works for some bikers. These bikers have some considerable experience and base the tire's usage within the tire's limitations.

-Some bikers are pulling trailers and having extensive two-up loads over long didtances. The car tire is a savings for them. Also, some of these bikes spend a lot of miles on dirt where the traction of a great street tire is minimized and the car tire works just as well but lasts longer.

-The car tire is usually a cheap radial with as rounded a profile as can be had. A hard tire with a sharp-cornered profile like found on a utility cage is not the best set-up.

I don't know of any serious long distance rallyists using a car tire in the events. But occasionally a rider on a tour of national parks or other long distance ride when time is not so constricted, will run a car tire.

Keep in mind that lots of riders are spoiled with very good tires and roads. Tires in other markets are constructed for longetivity rather than traction. If I was to fit a car tire to a bike, I would be testing and practicing in parking lots and traffic free roads to see what limitations I should be aware of. If I was riding mostly on very abrasive pavement, I would tend to fit a more inexpensive tire and let the street tear it up. I would also tend to have a salvaged wheel for the car tire leaving the good wheel/tire ready for more sporting rides.

Being the kind of guy that I am, I would be one of those riders who would try it once to see if I could make it work for me.

As always, YMMV.

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-welcome to the for'm. (I thought to write that several times and still didnt get it in the original post. Sigh.)

-If you try the car tire, let us know how it goes for you.  I would think that PSI would be a real concern. PSI may turn out to be a non-issue? I couldnt begin to guess if PSI ought to be higher/lower than stock or if it makes any difference at all?

-Let us know what tire you use and if its a special usage tire. An an all season tire might work better on a bike than a standard tire? Maybe a really soft, performance rain tire is the hot stuff? PSI too and any temp readings that you collect.

nobody rides half as well as they know how.

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Posted 10/27/2008 8:43:41 AM


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The following equation should say it all:

Car tire on a bike + $ savings = big problems

There's a lot more than just tread pattern to worry about. Sidewall strength of car tires opposed to bike tires is also a major concern. Bite the bullet, buy the best bike tire you can, go out and ride with peace of mind.

No worries Mate!




Now, let me get this right - is it one down, four up?
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